“You don’t hate the 4th of July…”

I may be 36 now but my mother still seems to think she knows me better than me. Like she always tells me I’m not a Democrat(because they raised me to be republican). She tells me what food I do and do not like(she bases this off of when I was like 5 years old). And she loves to tell what I do not hate.
“Oh you do not hate the 4th of July, you just don’t like the things associated with it.” Nope I pretty much hate the forth of July.
There are a myriad of reasons all of which I will spew off to you. Reason number 1, 4th of July has became just another holiday to drink. Except to make this one better we give drunk people explosives to set off(more on that). Seems wise. Just like Cinco De Mayo, the people of the United States seem to find the need to drink excessively, but they want to do it with the excuse that it is a holiday. Now unlike Cinco De Mayo, most people actually know what the holiday is for(most people think Cinco De Mayo is Mexico’s Independence Day…it is not). However, other than knowing that it is our nations birthday most “Americans” don’t seem to know much about America.
Case in point(and Reason #2). I took a quiz on line that was 10 questions off of the Citizenship test. I got 10 out of 10. At the point when I was taking the quiz only 23% were scoring above 60%. That is just sad as they are not hard questions. Or take a couple weeks ago when I was out with friends and the people next to us were debating about the presidential election. They started talking about the great presidents. They all agreed that Ben Franklin was one of the best. Hmmm. Even more sad was that two of the women I was with also thought he was president at one time. And last but not least I give you my conversation I had on 4th of July this year at the Papa Murphy’s take and bake pizza place.
Worker #1:”Happy 4th of July”
Me:”Thanks, but I am Canadian and don’t celebrate it.”
Worker #1: “You don’t? Is that just you or all Canadians?”
Me: “All of Canada does not celebrate it.”
Worker #2 looking at worker #1 like he is a moron. Which he is.
Worker #1: “What other countries don’t celebrate the 4th of July?”
Worker #2 again stares at worker #1 in disbelief.
I go to answer but worker #2 chimes in.
Worker #2: “Dude, no one else celebrates 4th of July except us.”
Worker#1: “Really, why?”
Worker #2: “Dude, you did graduate from high school, right?”
Worker #1 nods yes.
Me: “Because the 4th of July is The United States Independence Day. There is no need for other countries to celebrate it.”
Worker #1: “Oh, I thought it was like Christmas.”
Me: “No, Jesus doesn’t care about who celebrates America’s independence.”
Worker #2 laughs, Worker #1 looks confused.
I leave.

Reason number 3: Fireworks. Now before you say how can you hate fireworks, I don’t. I really like the professional ones that are tall and bright and shot off by people who shoot fireworks for a living. Fireworks that are shot over a wide open space or over a body of water like they are done here(for the most part). The fireworks that end at eleven o’clock at night. Those fireworks I love.
I have a problem with the bring them home and do it yourself fireworks. The ones that started at 6 pm and went until fucking 5am in my neighborhood. The ones that for a solid 2 hours were lit over my house. I am super cautious about this as not one but TWO teachers I used to work with had their houses burnt down by these fine armature firework shooter offers.
I’m talking about the fireworks set off by the 11 year boy down the street who was out there unsupervised with just a large box of fireworks.
These are the fireworks I hate. Technically they are outlawed in my town. But the surrounding towns allow it. And since it is too hard to catch some one doing it, the police do nothing about it. I understand it, I just hate it.
Give the kiddies some sparkles and be done with it. Don’t light stuff that can catch my house on fire people. Really.

Reason #4. My birthday. That’s right, this is where I get selfish. You see, mine being on the 2nd(and my hubby’s being on the 5th) sucks. Why does it suck? Because it always falls as part of the 4th of July weekend. The weekend where everyone goes out of town. And I, I am left with no one to celebrate with. Now, that I am married, I at least have my hubby to celebrate with but still, a few friends around would be nice.

I am not alone in my 4th of July hating. My husband is a hater. My friend A is a hater(we went bowling on 4th of July instead of any BBQ crap). There are a few of us out there…just not enough in my opinion.
So if you are a 4th of July lover. That is good, but I just hope you aren’t one of the drunk ones who shoots off fireworks and makes your poor neighbors worry. I also hope you know a little bit about the country you are celebrating for.

Enough with the hating. On to my pie. I love cherries and goats cheese together so when I had some Rainier cherries from my side of the road woman I was thinking of things to do with them. I am not a big pie person so I don’t make them all that often so I figured I would step up and make one.

Rainier Cherry and Goats Cheese Pie

1 cup granulated sugar
3 tablespoons cornstarch
1/4 teaspoon salt
5 cups whole pitted Rainier cherries(about 2 pounds whole unpitted cherries)
1 teaspoon fresh lemon juice
zest of ½ lemon
6 ounces crumbled goats cheese
whole milk for brushing
Goats Cheese Pie Crust
Position rack in lower third of oven and preheat to 425°F.
Whisk sugar, cornstarch, and salt in medium bowl to blend. Stir in cherries, lemon juice, and zest; set aside.

Roll out larger piece of dough (keep remaining piece chilled) on a lightly floured surface with a lightly floured rolling pin into a 14-inch round. Fit into a 9-inch pie plate. Trim any excess dough to leave a 1/2-inch overhang. Chill shell while rolling out top crust.

Roll out remaining dough on a lightly floured surface with a lightly floured rolling pin into a 12-inch round.

Toss toss goats cheese with cherries, then add to shell and cover with top crust . Press edges of crust together, then trim, leaving a 1/2-inch overhang. Fold overhang underneath, then crimp decoratively and brush top crust with milk. Cut out 5 (1- by 1/2-inch) teardrop-shaped steam vents 1 inch from center.

Bake pie on preheated baking sheet 30 minutes, then cover edge with a pie shield or foil and reduce oven temperature to 375°F. Continue to bake until crust is deep golden and filling is bubbling in center, 50 minutes to 1 hour more. Transfer pie to a rack to cool completely, 3 to 4 hours.

Adapted from Bon Appetit Magazine, June 2008


Goat Cheese Pie Crust

2 cups all-purpose flour
4 ounces cream cheese, softened but still cool
4 ounces soft goat cheese, softened but still cool
2 sticks(8 ounces) unsalted butter, softened but still cool

In a mixer, combine all ingredients and mix on medium-low until it forms a dough. Divide dough with one half slightly larger, then form each piece into a ball and flatten each into a disk. Wrap each disk in plastic wrap and chill until firm, at least 1 hour and up to 2 days.



  1. I like the time away from work… you can keep the beer and the firework and the overcooked barbecue.

    Next year I’ll come *in* to town and help you celebrate. Deal?

  2. Don’t worry don’t like the 4th here either. I hate going to big firework displays because people are always drunk. I too had the kids lighting fireworks off all around us From July 1 to present until all hours of the AM. I hate sitting outside at hot, sticky, fat laden, fly ridden cookouts – gimmie some AC, cozy clothes and a good movie or book any day of the week. And why do we need to grill out and celebrate that day – can’t we hang out with friends anytime we want?

  3. Happy Belated Birthday!
    I’ve never really given 4th of July much attention. I mostly stay in 4th of July weekend. I try to stay away from the drunk drivers and the firework traffic… I’d much prefer a quiet dinner with friends… and a pool wouldn’t be the worst thing either!

  4. Happy belated birthday!!!
    Hope your day was the sweetest and all your wishes come true!

    If it makes you feel better, it was super foggy in SF so no one could see any fireworks – I guess mother nature doesn’t love 4th of July in SF either!

    P.S. Fab pie!! I’m drooling looking at it!

  5. I get not liking the 4th. I always loved the part about getting together with family, but now that they’re 3,000 miles away the 4th is more about the long weekend. I DO love the long weekend, lol.

    Love the combination of flavors in the pie!

  6. I really enjoyed your entry – that conversation with your co-workers is hilarious! Living in NZ it has been interesting reading the blog entries re: the 4th of July. To be honest I didnt really realise it was such a huge celebration!

  7. I laughed at several points along this writeup. Especially as a fellow 4th of July Hater. You summed it up beautifully. Living in Queen Anne right by Seattle Center, I have seen some horrifying moments in humanity–the crowd at the Miley Cyrus concert, for instance–but the crowds at the 4th of July are always drunken, belligerent, and bearing fireworks. Chilling. However, your pie is perking me up–especially now that the holiday’s over!! Yea!

    Oh, and Happy Belated!! Having a birthday myself on August 26, it was always lost in back-to-school fever during my youth–it sucks to have your birthday lost :-(

  8. I support your hatred of July 4th. My hubby’s BD is on 7/3…so I understand about the birthday thing! We just watch The Twilight Zone marathon on the 4th and that’s what we look forward to every year! :)


  9. how can i hate 4th of july when i have delicious pie like this :-)

    what a lovely post !! well as usual

  10. I love the banter of your coworkes. Please tell me it isn’t true. Yet, I know it is. Does not speak well for this country. Pie looks beautiful and very yummy!

  11. Wow I love the 4th of july. I love bbqing,cooking up a storm and enjoying myself with friends and family. I’m one of those “americans” that doesnt get all the dates right when it comes to history but now that I live in the netherlands I realise we arent the only ones who get things wrong. I know what happend but I dont think it’s a crime if I get the date wrong..I cant name one person who knows everything history wise.

  12. Loved your post – even though I enjoy 4th of July and fireworks you’re right that alcohol and fireworks should never be mixed.

    And just so you know – citizens of other countries can be just as stupid. Several years ago we were in Paris over Bastille day – and were awakened in the middle of the night to the sounds of smashing bottles and drunken revelers on the street below our open windows, loudly singing “Macho Man”!

  13. Wow, the food looks great, and I must say…

    after reading your post, I big puffy heart you :) I’m from Alabama and drunk *rednecks* shooting off fireworks are quite possibly the only thing worse than regular drunk people shooting off fireworks… It doesn’t bode well for my neighborhood, that much is true. My own dad caught his ass on fire one year by trying to shoot a bottle rocket from a coke can! It’s craziness!

  14. courtney says:

    I took that test too, I got an 80% one question I legitmately did not know, and the other I didn’t read well enough.

    And I too hate backyard fire works, and living around a bunch of rednecks, we get them at 2 am for several days (they were still at it last night). It always means several nights of sitting up with my scared dogs, and not getting any sleep. Did you know that the 4th of July and New Years day are the two worst days for car accidents each year, because people are a) drunk and b) watching the fireworks as they drive. They are also the worst days for lost pets because the animals get scared and try to run and hide. Which is why our dogs aren’t allowed in the back yard unsupervised on those days.

    As far as drinking we do not drink and our friends do not drink but so we don’t have to worry about that. As far as the 4th goes, I love it for what it stands for, I don’t really like the way it gets celebrated (but I could say that about most holidays).

  15. Well, I can see your mom is right! You really don’t like the stuff that goes on on the 4th of July!!
    I so love your two workers discussing the 4th, that is a real hoot!

  16. Oh the PIE!! I love the pie and I really love the goat cheese in the crust!

  17. I love the 4th of July or Independence Day and what it stands for. No better country in the world. I don’t like amateurs setting off fireworks either and luckily it’s illegal in my neighborhood for the most part.

    Show me a parade and I’ll show you a bunch of drunks so can’t blame it on the Fourth or St. Patrick’s Day solely.

    I agree about the sad state of some people’s knowledge. Thank the school system for that. Ever watch Jay Leno when he goes and interviews people on the street? Scary, especially the ones just out of graduation.

    Happy belated Birthday.

  18. cherries and goat cheese?? mmmmmm. i have yet to try goat cheese with sweets but it sounds wonderful, as i love brie w/preserves :)

  19. Preach, sister! Effing fireworks…5 nights later I’m still getting woken up by the 11 year old down the street. Who decided it was a good idea to let kids play with fire unsupervised?! I keep threatening to take a pail of water down there and throw it on the kid every time he lights something.

    Great recipe, I’m definitely trying it…Thanks for sharing!

  20. I feel the same way on our Independence Day (which is on Sep, 7). Good to know I’m not alone.

    I have never tried cherries and goat’s cheese together, but if you say they’re good, I believe it.

  21. huh. just finished reading your post again – realized i had skimmed over it initially until all the “drama” recently – so i thought i’d go back and read it again. i really don’t see what all the fuss is about. really. c’mon. mr melodramatic just needs to get a life.

  22. Nice job on the pie!

    I love the conversation at the pizza place. I cannot believe how stupid some people are.

    Actually. Wait. Yes, I can believe it.

    And I’m with you on the fireworks. We had people here setting fireworks off a week before Canada and up to a week after. And of course they like to do it at 1:00 a.m. when most everyone is sleeping because they have jobs!!! I swear if I found the culprits I’d have slapped them silly.

    Down with with the stupid-fireworks-setter-offers!!!


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